Celebrate clean coal, come on!
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In one TV commercial, Kool and the Gang warble their celebration of good times because coal, yes, coal, makes the party possible in America. In another, white and black, young and old, male and female, and even someone in a doctor's green scrubs, stare into the camera and soulfully declare: "I believe" American know-how will make coal clean and stop it from contributing to climate change. Not sold? Maybe you missed the newspaper ads and billboards warning that turning away from coal could mean blackouts, unemployment and higher electric bills.
These messages and other variations on the coal-is-great theme are flooding the nation courtesy of the coal industry, coal-fueled utilities, railroads and related industries. The pro-coal marketing campaign -- known by its tag line "Clean Coal" -- has kicked into high gear as prospects for new plants have turned bleak. Wall Street is tightening financing, leading to what one analyst told the Christian Science Monitor is a "de facto moratorium on coal power." The expected election of a more environmentally friendly president may lead to the first federal limits on carbon dioxide emissions. Even red states like Kansas are now battling the construction of coal-fired plants. Last year, 59 new plants were either canceled or halted across the nation.
When it comes to the threat of global warming, "the coal industry are the last people to get it," says Daniel J. Weiss, senior fellow and director of climate strategy at the Center for American Progress, a nonprofit, progressive think tank. "That's why they're fighting so hard. They're on a death spiral right now."
The coal industry's woes have risen as worries over climate change have increased. Today's coal-fired plants emit copious amounts of carbon dioxide, a major greenhouse gas. One new plant planned for Iowa, for example, would dump 5.9 million tons of the stuff into the air in just one year. Two proposed Kansas plants would add 11 million tons annually.
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As the coal debate continues, the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration announced April 23 that global levels of atmospheric carbon dioxide increased by 19 billion tons in the last year. The worldwide concentration is now 385 parts per million. The level that is expected to tip the world into disaster is 450 parts per million.
But climate change isn't raining on the coal industry's campaign. In April, Barack Obama acknowledged a voter sporting one of the industry's hats at a campaign stop in Dunmore, Penn., and then used the industry's own terminology to talk about his support for investing in carbon storage research. In an appearance in Charleston, W.Va., Hillary Clinton also used the industry's own words to pledge her support for doing the same.
Obama, Clinton and John McCain all favor legislation to fight climate change. The nearly identical programs proposed by the two Democrats are more far-reaching than that put forth by McCain. However, none of them support a moratorium on building new coal-fired plants.
Meanwhile, the Clean Coal marketing machine keeps rolling. As one commercial declares, coal powers "our way of life." On the soundtrack, Kool and the Gang sing, "Celebrate good times, come on!"
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What an insidious campaign. And all the presidential candidates go along with it! It is time to tell them to stop this pandering to those industries who care about nothing but their own balance sheets. CO2 levels are now the highest they have been in 650,000 years and it is because of the very garbage being spewed by coal plants.
"Clean coal" is an assault on reason! Shame on Obama, Clinton, and McCain for giving it credence to get votes while people die from its effects.
These messages and other variations on the coal-is-great theme are flooding the nation courtesy of the coal industry, coal-fueled utilities, railroads and related industries. The pro-coal marketing campaign -- known by its tag line "Clean Coal" -- has kicked into high gear as prospects for new plants have turned bleak. Wall Street is tightening financing, leading to what one analyst told the Christian Science Monitor is a "de facto moratorium on coal power." The expected election of a more environmentally friendly president may lead to the first federal limits on carbon dioxide emissions. Even red states like Kansas are now battling the construction of coal-fired plants. Last year, 59 new plants were either canceled or halted across the nation.
When it comes to the threat of global warming, "the coal industry are the last people to get it," says Daniel J. Weiss, senior fellow and director of climate strategy at the Center for American Progress, a nonprofit, progressive think tank. "That's why they're fighting so hard. They're on a death spiral right now."
The coal industry's woes have risen as worries over climate change have increased. Today's coal-fired plants emit copious amounts of carbon dioxide, a major greenhouse gas. One new plant planned for Iowa, for example, would dump 5.9 million tons of the stuff into the air in just one year. Two proposed Kansas plants would add 11 million tons annually.
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As the coal debate continues, the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration announced April 23 that global levels of atmospheric carbon dioxide increased by 19 billion tons in the last year. The worldwide concentration is now 385 parts per million. The level that is expected to tip the world into disaster is 450 parts per million.
But climate change isn't raining on the coal industry's campaign. In April, Barack Obama acknowledged a voter sporting one of the industry's hats at a campaign stop in Dunmore, Penn., and then used the industry's own terminology to talk about his support for investing in carbon storage research. In an appearance in Charleston, W.Va., Hillary Clinton also used the industry's own words to pledge her support for doing the same.
Obama, Clinton and John McCain all favor legislation to fight climate change. The nearly identical programs proposed by the two Democrats are more far-reaching than that put forth by McCain. However, none of them support a moratorium on building new coal-fired plants.
Meanwhile, the Clean Coal marketing machine keeps rolling. As one commercial declares, coal powers "our way of life." On the soundtrack, Kool and the Gang sing, "Celebrate good times, come on!"
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What an insidious campaign. And all the presidential candidates go along with it! It is time to tell them to stop this pandering to those industries who care about nothing but their own balance sheets. CO2 levels are now the highest they have been in 650,000 years and it is because of the very garbage being spewed by coal plants.
"Clean coal" is an assault on reason! Shame on Obama, Clinton, and McCain for giving it credence to get votes while people die from its effects.
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- JanforGore
- 1 month ago
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Coal is bad. That's what bad little boys and girls get at Christmastime instead of presents from Santa.
The coal industry is trying hard to overcome coal's dirty image. I for one don't buy it. But do you think we could develop e technology to cap the power plants with so-called "scrubbers" -- like what they used to trap pollutants and curb acid rain -- only these would trap carbon dioxide instead?
I wonder what the Clean Coal campaigners say is the reason for the cleanness of coal.-
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- Julie_Soller
- 1 month ago
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Ah, Carbon. Such an interesting element of what looks like nothing more than a stealth-black rock, yet powered the world in the industrial age... and subsequentially poisoned, asphyxiated, and dissolved it. We spent a while undoing the work of coal power, why the hell should we go back to it? Even nuclear (thats pronounced NU-klee-ER people) power is safer.
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- Dmitri_Molotov
- 1 month ago
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Clean Coal! what an oxymoron
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I agree, shame on them.
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people who believe in clean coal also believe in santa clause
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Clean coal is so much bull. Their commercials are so emotionally manipulative that they're repulsive.
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Clean coal? That's less probable than a clean gas station toilet seat.
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- Wicker_duh
- 1 month ago
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I'm getting tired of those "We Can Solve It" climate crisis commercials, but at least they're not as blatantly deceptive as the "Clean Coal" campaign. It's an oxymoron to end all oxymorons.
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- guynameddevin
- 1 month ago
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Here in Italy we do not get, at least yet, this type of messages. I am sure they will get here, like Scientology, or the Creationist debate has. It just takes a little more.
It'd be great if bunk analyses died before that...-
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- davidorban
- 1 month ago
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Well I hope organizations like The Alliance for Climate Protection take these people on full blast. I think their ads need to be a little more forceful and include more information regarding climate change because it is real and it is the truth, while the coal industry wants to sell us a lie for profit.
It's time to take the coal industry on. It's time to start protesting at sites where new plants are being built on a wider scale. Carbon sequestration will not be on line for at LEAST ten to twenty years. We don't have the time to wait for that and sequestration is only a BANDAID because it does not guarantee that no Co2 will ever reach the atmosphere if plants will even conform to doing it or that it's use will even be enforced.
What is the difference between spewing it in the air or burying it in the ground where harm can come to underground acquifers? They have already discovered that human viruses are seeping into water supplies deeper than previously thought possible because of lacking infrastructure and cracked aquitards. This is a NO WIN situation for our planet and our species and for any politician to tout this as if any kind of effective technology is available now just to get votes is a crime. How dare they.-
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- JanforGore
- 1 month ago
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I see a lot of these ads here in Ohio where Cleveland Public Power has recently entered a deal to purchase power from a brand new coal fired power plant for the next 50 years. There is a huge lakefront here that is perfect for wind energy. Lots of talk here about wind turbines on the lake. Lots of action building new coal plants.
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there is no such thing as clean coal its the bullshit they're selling you so they won't get out of business
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- damartin90
- 1 month ago
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economic is not the problem....
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- PeaceThroughAnarchy
- 1 month ago
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Clean coal is like saying clean cigarettes ... There's no such thing....
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- PeaceThroughAnarchy
- 1 month ago
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At least there are activist groups standing up to this LIE. I will be looking for some groups in my state as well. I'm tired of waiting for this government to do something and tired of hearing promises that never get fulfilled.
Those of us who care about this planet, our future generations and ourselves need to get louder. How many have to die from cancer, asthma, mercury poisoning, strip mining, coal mine cave ins, etc. before people understand what is more important?
And after reading this I am now against the Lieberman/Warner bill because it calls for investment in carbon sequestration.That is along the lines of desalination of water when you can easily conserve what you have for a lot less cost. Looks like some are only trying to make money off of this crisis while continuing the status quo instead of looking at it the way it needs to be looked at.
We shouldn't be looking to sequester carbon, we should be looking to freeze it to begin with. To me this shows a clear lack of moral and political will.-
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- JanforGore
- 1 month ago
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Posting this again for anyone who did not see it. Clinton, McCain, and Obama should see it...They all touted clean coal in West Virginia and Pennsylvania, and will keep doing it because they think the people actually understand about it. If you are truthful and tell people you can save their lives, the lives of their children, their environment, and their jobs with cleaner safer energy sources that are viable now as opposed to a technology that is not, why do the opposite unless you are in the corporate pockets of those who benefit from your deception? Would they then drink their water? Perhaps for those just parroting the lines so faraway from reality it is just a political catchphrase. But when you have lost loved ones to cancer you know it is much more than that.
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- JanforGore
- 1 month ago
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Greenpeace Report: Carbon Capture and Sequestration Is a Dangerous Distraction
"The report exposes CCS technology’s woeful inadequacy on numerous points. CCS wastes energy, for one thing, as it uses between 10 and 40% of the plant’s power output just to function. It is also expensive, and could possibly double the cost of constructing a coal-fired power plant, which in turn could lead to the raising of electricity costs for consumers. And despite its exorbitant cost, there is actually no guarantee that storing carbon underground is totally safe or effective even a very low leakage rate could completely undermine the benefits of CCS. But most importantly, CCS simply can’t deliver on a large scale until 2030, according to the World Business Council for Sustainable Development, whereas the scientific consensus about climate change holds that our greenhouse gas emissions must peak by 2015 if we’re to avoid the worst effects of man-made global warming.
“There is an immediate window for the U.S. to address the most urgent effects of global warming, and CCS is a dangerous distraction from real solutions,” said Kate Smolski, legislative coordinator for Greenpeace USA."
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- JanforGore
- 1 month ago
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I politicians talk about clean coal in these states because many of the constituents are dependent on coal industry jobs. In spite of the coal industry never providing economic prosperity or security for these people, many there still see coal as the only way. These people have been duped by the coal industry for a long long time. To them, clean coal is the next promise for security and jobs. Although the people may not know that clean coal is all marketing and no substance, the politicians do. As usual, they are just pandering for votes. Its always a race to the bottom.
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Well, as the you tube video I posted shows, people in West Virginia do see it and are standing up to it. That is why this truth is so important to get out. Once people know that clean coal is anything but and that these companies don't care at all about their health, alternate energy sources that bring them good jobs without th black lung, cancer, polluted water and dessimated landscapes will simply make sense. But yes, I know, the dollar bill comes before everything. We need an energy epiphany in this country and we need it now.
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- JanforGore
- 1 month ago
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"Clean-Coal" is bullshit but coal does power our way of life, no doubt about it. So as long as we keep consuming electricity at our current rate there's not much we can really do about this.
I would say that a good first step would be to reduce, or even end, mountaintop removal mining. -
Yes, people in these states are waking up to what the coal industry is doing to their states. But there are still many many people in those states who still support the coal industry to their detriment.
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- JanforGore
- 1 month ago
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Too many people in these states have been convinced -- for decades -- that coal is vital to their economy. Although it has never brought economic good times for the people and the industry does not invest its profits in the communities, too many people still think they need coal for their jobs and economic security.
I'm not sure why they still defend and support the coal industry. I think they are just focusing on the short term and their struggle to make ends meet today. But as long as they are controlled by the coal industry, they will continue to struggle. No boom times ahead, just false promises.
As George Bush says, "Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice... (pause... pause) We won't get fooled again."
http://www.register-herald.com/business/local_story_044...
http://www.friendsofcoal.org/
This statement from their website is rediculous:
"The Friends of Coal is dedicated to informing and educating West Virginia citizens about the coal industry and its vital role in the state's future.
Our goal is to provide a united voice for an industry that has been and remains a critical economic contributor to West Virginia." -
I know that. The point is, what are we going to do to fight them? Isn't that what the Climate Project is all about? Bringing this truth to those who would otherwise not have it?
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- JanforGore
- 1 month ago
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cfitz1488: yes, but tell that to the candidates who don't seem to feel any urgency about that. They simply tout the part that sounds good.
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- JanforGore
- 1 month ago
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- JanforGore
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JanforGore: If I go to friends of coal with one of my presentations, do you have my back? Something tells me I would get bounced out of there pretty quickly!
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Well really, I was talking about going to the people in say Appalachia for example who need to know of other sources of energy that are cleaner and safer. Those in West Virginia who were part of the movie Burning Our Future saw what coal is doing to their lives firsthand and saw it isn't worth it. More people need to see that in order to put pressure on government and business to change. And as far as going to 'friends of coal', yes, you would probably get bounced out... but sure, I would have your back because they're wrong.
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- JanforGore
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I live on the Navajo Reservation without electricity and running water.. It's going really well for me..
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- PeaceThroughAnarchy
- 1 month ago
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And they will be allowed to get away with it for years to come. All of the candidates call for 80% reductions in emissions by 2050. By then the ice all over much of this world will be melted, storms will be much more intense, more land will succomb to the rising seas, and God only knows how many will already have become victims of climate events, food shortages, water shortages, disease, etc.
There is then certainly a disconnect in the political world to this moral crisis that I simply cannot stomach. And of course we will also hear the same griping from coal plants in this country that will claim that they shouldn't have to do anything since China is putting one to two plants on line a week... And we will hear the griping vice versa... and in the meantime more people will die. Sometimes I truly do believe this human species has a deathwish.-
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- JanforGore
- 1 month ago
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Tell me which lung is that of a coal miner. Then tell me coal is clean.
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- JanforGore
- 1 month ago
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Clean Coal (LOL)
